Call of Duty 4 Best SMG Sub Machine Gun Analysis and Review
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“The terrible range and consequently terrible damage values makes the Skorpion totally unplayable for normal matches.”
with silencer the skorpion can be very deadly at range. virtually no recoil or sway, and a decent iron sight if you can get used to it. Snipers love it when you out gun them from across the map xD
In hardcore matches yes the Skorpion can be deadly at range. But in normal matches it takes at least 5 shots to get a kill at any sort of distance, and getting 5 shots on a target is not an easy task.
We should play some time and I’ll demonstrate
the p90 is for more enemies at once and the mp5 is for fewer rite?
P90 vs. MP5 depends on many things. The P90 has a higher capacity which means it can be better when taking on large groups of enemies. You also have to consider the 40-20 damage of the MP5 and the 30-20 damage of the P90 and the recoil of each weapon.
the p90 was patched outa the game for consoles?!??!?!?!
I can’t test it on the console myself but yes secondary sources tell me that the P90 sprint bug has been fixed for consoles.
Skorpion is amazing in hardcore… but you need stopping power and steady aim. At first I hated sacrificing Jammer and dead silence but it makes up for it when you can take out snipers easily and run and gun just as well. I like it
I reckon the mini Uzi is one of the best weapon in h/c matches.I used it almost every time, although i have to agree P90 is far superior. When you aim with an Uzi, i found that the recoil becomes bigger however if you hip fire it, it’s fairly accurate, add some extreme conditioning + silencer and you will rape everyone in the match.
I love My Mini Uzi so much !!!
Well actually hard numbers on an SMG don’t matter much unless you’re half a map away.
Most of the time you’d be 10 meters from a guy. At that distance, plus all SMGs shoot at more than 10 rounds per second, you’d be dead in less than half a second even if some of your shots miss.
At mid range though, I’d think the MP5, P90 and Skorpion are the only SMGs accurate enough. I guess I don’t even have explain to you if you’re using a SMG for long range.
Anyway here are some of my findings –>
Hip fire wise, the mini-uzi is exceptionally accurate. No idea why. The others are roughly the same.
Aiming down the sight, definitely the skorpion, then the p90, ak74u, then the mp5.
For extended firefights, running around, the p90.
Silenced stalking, silenced skorpion since no one hears you firing at all. The others are still quite audible.
Hardcore – any gun is lethal. 1-2 shots kill.
Headshotting people – MP5 and Skorpion
ACOG – MP5 and Skorpion
RDS – P90
Naked – Skorpion, AK47u
Cont’ed from above
Handling feel and sound(sound does matter) – MP5
Counter sniper work – Naked Skorpion on Stopping Power with Deep Impact and a VERY STEADY HAND and SHARP EYE.
Main advantages – P90(big clip), Skorpion(high sighted accuracy and NO recoil), Mini-Uzi(fast rpm and good hip fire accuracy), MP5&AK47u (all rounders and best feel-of-control)
I guess that it’s mainly personal preference as most guns are quite lethal. You have to like the gun to excel in it – the ‘feel’ of the gun is very important.
The only gripe I have is that the weapon bugs such as the AK47u Hip fire accuracy and p90 sprint distance haven’t been fixed.
Skorpion- kills with 4 bullets (SP) across the map. Would lowering it to 3 stop your crying?
AK74- Only smg with decent penetration. Same stats as the mp5 except the recoil is mostly verticle instead of batshit circular meaning you can actually hit something at a distance by pushing the thumstick/mouse down while firing. Would making it recoil like a cartoon fire hose make you happy?
Sorry to be a prick. I just hate the skorpion being considered “totally unplayable for normal matches” as a 4 bullet kill when it would be considered unstoppable as a 3 bullet killer considering it’s full auto accuracy.
mp5 or ak74u?
mp5. But would u use the the P90 should u use a acog or red dot or scilencer. im not stealth so acog or red dot?
rds
whats so great about the skorpion? It has terrible range. “Hey lets shoot at a sniper across the whole map with this gun that can shoot a whopping 2x as far as a knife. I think I can take him”
oh yeah when does the assult riffle review come out?
@Halo dog47:
The range doesnt matter, wether you are 20 meters away or 1000 it will still kill in 4 or less bullets if you’re using stopping power(aim for head) . use that in addition to a silencer so that they dont know where you are coming from seeing how the range is shit, a little less won’t make a difference. a sniper aiming down the scope usually doesnt have time to scope on you or run by the time he dies.
The Skorpian is the best weapon in the game, bar none.
cod4source what do you mean by the mp5’s recoil?
in my experience scorpians suck a** just today the whole team had scorpians and i had a barrett and they wouldnt stop comming so i just owned then all… probally because they couldnt see me verry well even with an acog…….. but a sniper does have time so scope on you and kick your a** if he knows what hes doing
scorpian best weapon? not a chance… the M16 has every gun beat
i wouldn’t say skorpion is the best, but it’s very underrated, but no surprise ppl that say the skorpion is total shit are ppl that think the 50 cal and m16 are the only weapons in the game
“i had a barrett and they wouldnt stop comming so i just owned then all……. but a sniper does have time so scope on you and kick your a** if he knows what hes doing”
ive never seen a sniper with a 50 cal that knew what he was doing
If you’re are gonna say the skorpion is useless, then it’s obvious you simply do not know how to use it.
bandolier or 3frags or 3spec nades? for the mp5 silenced while using the m9 as extra ammo
I’m not saying its useless but there are better choices…
if you’ve never seen a 50 cal sniper “know what he was doing” you haven’t played me… also the only reason i use the Barrett is 4 the power and when somebody is hiding behind a wall and nobody can do anything about it quickly, so i come along and well, that’s that. Also i don’t think the M16 and .50 are the “only weapons” just sadly the best weapons that fit my style of play
lol
just so no one flames me this is what I assume. The skorpion has low recoil and with a silencer it is even less? And the range just makes a gun weaker not actually have a small range. So if you can aim the scorp can easily take down snipers, but against anything else it gest taken down so easilly by everything. Whatever floats your boat though because my expiriences with it have been in the -15s
just so no one flames me this is what I assume. The skorpion has low recoil and with a silencer it is even less? And the range just makes a gun weaker not actually have a small range.
sorry this is what I know and the part affter that is what I am stating.
the short range of the skorpion means that the damage decays faster over range compared to say, a sniper, which never decays. You still do damage, but after about 3 meters the skorpion is at its worst damage. skorpion still is awesome though
Question for the skorpion fans out there, how are you hitting targets with a silencer at any distance, let alone half a map away? Are the targets moving? Or is this only good for anti-sniping? After seeing all of these great remarks from the skorpion fans, I gave it a try and had a very hard time. Any pointers?
…… aim 4 the head…
Like I said a long time ago (and this is only competitive server type stuff) but the report on a P90 is unique, meaning when you shoot it, everyone around you friend or foe will recognize it as a P90 determine your general location, and watch out for you. An MP5 is much more generic, meaning in an intense firefight, people are less likely to distinguish it from the rest of the fire around them.
Yes, you can put a silencer on a P90, and mask the report, but then you’ve gotta rely on that iron sight (which isn’t too bad), plus, you’ve got the lower range, making it less versatile.
IMO, MP5 > P90
@petekaz
I wouldn’t bother with the silencer personally, except in normal mode where you really need it. Just keep practicing or go to an acog or red dot. I use acog
P90 w/ red dot
Bandolier/ c4 if you are good with it
stopping power
deepimpact/ martydom
pretty good classes if u use them right
Lots of comments, I’ll try to cover the main points that were raised.
On the AK74u vs. MP5, the differences between the weapons are incredibly small with recoil being the only deciding factor. In general I think the recoil on the MP5 is more manageable, but I can see how people could personally prefer the recoil of the AK74u. You also have to consider the hip accuracy bug of the AK74u which brings it’s hip accuracy to medium when equipped with red dot or silencer. In this case personal preference trumps any quantifiable variables I can come up with for the two weapons.
On the Skorpion being bad in non-hardcore matches, I fully stand behind this hypothesis. Let me rehash the concept of range, which people often misunderstand. The 200-400 range value for the Skorpion means at anything closer than 200 units of measure the Skorpion will do it’s full 50 damage. Once you go beyond that though the damage drops of until it hits it’s lowest point at 400 units with 20 damage. 400 units is an incredibly short distance, just a little more than three times the range of the knife. This means you will be basically always be shooting 20 damage shots. Sure it’s possible to get kills like this, but for non-hardcore matches it simply isn’t the best way to get kills when I could have my MP5 shotting 40-20 with a range of 750-1000. The bullet capacity of 20 is also terrible. Again, non hardcore games where you have 30 health changes everything, the Skorpion becomes quite playable.
I will try to respond to some of the other comments tomorrow.
p90 silencer
+
UAV jammer
Yeah, I don’t know if I was clear or not, but I don’t use the skorpion on normal…
in response to 26 i use c4
and m9 for minibandolier
The p90 is good, but not respectable in hardcore. It’s too overpowered. The Mp5 is amazing. The Skorpion with an ACOG (Yes, I know it looks ridiculous) is fantastic as well. Increases range, but recoil as well. I’ve used it for clan matches and paired with slight of hand I’d said that almost beats the mp5. (For hardcore of course)
whatever I am pissed at the skorp now. I just played three rounds in a row with it and got -10 – -17 on them. I didn’t even get a single AIR STRIKE. And I usually get a pretty good positive. But with the skorp I’m plying worse than I did when I first played the game.
@ 2 posts up. the ingame stats are wrong. range isn’t increased with acogs and the whole accuracy decreasing thing just means more gun sway.
I finally got the silencer for the skorp and I’m starting to do, well ok with it. But I’m having a little trouble aiming at peopl from a long range, any tips? I also noticed that it has a really small magzine and I find myself having to reload after every kill or two. Sould I use SoH to help with that or just keep SP. I’m still a long ways of from the gold mini uzi so I want to do as well as I can while I’m forced to use the skorp.
oh yeah is the acog good on the skorp or should I stay silenced.
halo dog try out sleight of hand thats what I used for the skorpion
I use the Ak-74u with juggernaut. It has enough power so u will still have time to turn and kill them
Halo dog try playing hardcore. Then the few bullets you have will be put to good use.
After reading all those coments, i thought to give the skorpion a try… i usually play mp5 (frag3,sopping power, steady aim – best perk for more Damage Boost), im not that pro but i kinda do ok/well with my mp5 class, anywayz i tried the skorpion, it didnt go well
, but i noticed 1 thing: its the only weapon in the game so far i played with that has no problems in it exept for the small magzine. My question is: Overall in general whats the 2 best SMG’s / Assaults To Use in All Maps/Situations
lol … Anyone help plz 
i think the best 2 SMG’s r the Mp5 & Skorpion For Me, But each has a porlbem , if the Mp5 dnt jump a lot while shooting, it would really be even more deadly weapon… and the problem with skorpion that its taking lots of bullets to kill 1 target so im feeling that Mp5 is better coz it takes less bullets to kill a target which makes it better